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I received the following comment on my Blog. "They are overmedicating Mom” (The family said of hospice professionals). “Following a brief rally, she slept most of the time and died within a week." Her sons concluded she was being overmedicated with pain medication; with less medication, she would wake up and be alert again. They wanted Mom back, understandably, but that was not to be and it was not because of the pain medication...she was dying.

You are correct in your assessment. Mom probably did not die because she was over medicated. The family concerns you mention are so often exactly what people believe, however. That if Mom just didn’t have the pain medicine she would talk with them, would be alert and may even not have died when she did.

What most people don’t know is that months before death from disease or old age the dying process begins. A person begins eating less and less, sleeping more and more and withdrawing inward, talking less and less.

In the weeks before death a person is asleep more than awake, eating almost nothing and generally does not initiate conversation. They will respond when spoken to although often are confused.

In the days to hours before death a person is generally non responsive, meaning they may be moving and talking but not making sense and not responding to the world around them. This is the normal progression of gradual dying from disease or old age.

How much medication a person has is not the issue here. This progression will occur with or without medication. Withholding the medication will not have the patient waking up and talking if indeed death is days to hours away. Withholding the medication will leave the patient less comfortable (if pain has been an issue in the disease process then maybe in severe pain), overly agitated, restless and possibly with aggravated air hunger (difficulty breathing).

The guideline to use for administering narcotics as death approaches is to look at the person’s disease history. If pain has been an issue through out the disease process then continue giving the narcotic’s prescribed dosage. (Over the course of time the dosage of pain medicines is often increased.)

If pain was not an issue during the disease process then just because a person is dying does not mean pain is present and that a narcotic is appropriate. For restlessness a mild tranquilizer is effective. For labored breathing a very small amount of Morphine can ease that discomfort.

Dying is not painful. Disease causes pain. Know that we the watchers generally have a more difficult time watching our loved one die than our loved one who is actually dying does. The person dying is so withdrawn and removed from their body in the days to hours before death from disease or old age they are not experiencing their body and its sensations in the same manner as a healthy person.

I made the new DVD, New Rules for End of Life Care, in part to address the misconceptions people generally have about the use of narcotics during end of life care including the separate issues of addiction and of dying. Educating families that caring for someone at the end of their life is very different from caring for someone who is going to get better is crucial during this challenging time.

16 comments

Trish

If I know the person died prematurely because of overmedication on prescription migrain med. The person was sleeping most of the time and stayed in a dark room with no natural light for a month.
Could that cause deterioration of the body?
Note: person was awake and coherent last few days.
Not disoriented at all.
Person was in Hospice in daughters home!
She didn’t want him to go to nursing home.
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BK Books replied:
Hi Trish, I don’t have enough medical history to comment on whether gentleman’s death was exhilarated by being in a dark room for a month with a migraine. I will say if hospice was involved in his care I expect them to have monitored his progression toward death. The fact he was on hospice tells me death was expected. Blessings to you and your friend’s family. Barbara

If I know the person died prematurely because of overmedication on prescription migrain med. The person was sleeping most of the time and stayed in a dark room with no natural light for a month.
Could that cause deterioration of the body?
Note: person was awake and coherent last few days.
Not disoriented at all.
Person was in Hospice in daughters home!
She didn’t want him to go to nursing home.
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BK Books replied:
Hi Trish, I don’t have enough medical history to comment on whether gentleman’s death was exhilarated by being in a dark room for a month with a migraine. I will say if hospice was involved in his care I expect them to have monitored his progression toward death. The fact he was on hospice tells me death was expected. Blessings to you and your friend’s family. Barbara

Suz

I’ve watched several people be over medicated. Some even die. Hospice should not be about drugging a patient up so they’ll be a less burden. I’ve seen it. People can be awake. They can have that time with their family. They may sometimes be in pain. Helping manage that is what should be done. It’s gotten way out of control.
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BK Books replied:
Hi Suz, thank you for your comments. There is so much misunderstanding and lack of knowledge surrounding end of life pain management. Education is the key. Blessings! Barbara

I’ve watched several people be over medicated. Some even die. Hospice should not be about drugging a patient up so they’ll be a less burden. I’ve seen it. People can be awake. They can have that time with their family. They may sometimes be in pain. Helping manage that is what should be done. It’s gotten way out of control.
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BK Books replied:
Hi Suz, thank you for your comments. There is so much misunderstanding and lack of knowledge surrounding end of life pain management. Education is the key. Blessings! Barbara

barbara karnes

Hi Amy, about your concerns of your mom being over medicated. Right now, today, contact your hospice nurse. Have her come to the house today, and talk with you about your concerns. Have her explain why she is giving your mom the medications she is. If you are not satisfied with the conversation, completely comfortable with her explanations, then call her supervisor and explain what you are thinking and feeling. DO NOT just be unhappy and concerned BE proactive. They work for you. Ask questions, get answers you are comfortable with. You can email me at barbara@bkbooks.com. I would like, if you have time, to know how this works out for you. My thoughts and blessings are with you and your mom. Barbara

Hi Amy, about your concerns of your mom being over medicated. Right now, today, contact your hospice nurse. Have her come to the house today, and talk with you about your concerns. Have her explain why she is giving your mom the medications she is. If you are not satisfied with the conversation, completely comfortable with her explanations, then call her supervisor and explain what you are thinking and feeling. DO NOT just be unhappy and concerned BE proactive. They work for you. Ask questions, get answers you are comfortable with. You can email me at barbara@bkbooks.com. I would like, if you have time, to know how this works out for you. My thoughts and blessings are with you and your mom. Barbara

Amy Sullivan

Last night my mom was up eating ice cream after having dinner. Tonight she is knocked out. She has wound care and does have some pain. She recently was in a rehab facility and then long-term care. They recommended coming home with hospice. On day 3 of hospice, they started on heavy-duty drugs that the skilled nursing facility did not give her, and didn’t think she needed. Shw has not been out of bed or eating because she is so drugged up. I am extremely angry right now. If they had felt like she was in that kind of pain at the skilled nursing facility, then I think they would have given her more than Tylenol 3.

Last night my mom was up eating ice cream after having dinner. Tonight she is knocked out. She has wound care and does have some pain. She recently was in a rehab facility and then long-term care. They recommended coming home with hospice. On day 3 of hospice, they started on heavy-duty drugs that the skilled nursing facility did not give her, and didn’t think she needed. Shw has not been out of bed or eating because she is so drugged up. I am extremely angry right now. If they had felt like she was in that kind of pain at the skilled nursing facility, then I think they would have given her more than Tylenol 3.

barbara

Hi Pamela, I am so sorry for the experience you had as your sister was being cared for by a hospice. Please talk with the hospice administrator and tell your concerns. If you do not feel the response is appropriate report the hospice to Medicare. There is a hotline for suspected abuse. This may be the place to start with your complaint -https://www.hospicepatients.org/hospic55reportfraud.html
OR: https://oig.hhs.gov/fraud/report-fraud/
As with anything there are “good” hospices and there are “not so good” hospices. The not so good need to be held to account. Thank you for writing to me. Blessings! Barbara

Hi Pamela, I am so sorry for the experience you had as your sister was being cared for by a hospice. Please talk with the hospice administrator and tell your concerns. If you do not feel the response is appropriate report the hospice to Medicare. There is a hotline for suspected abuse. This may be the place to start with your complaint -https://www.hospicepatients.org/hospic55reportfraud.html
OR: https://oig.hhs.gov/fraud/report-fraud/
As with anything there are “good” hospices and there are “not so good” hospices. The not so good need to be held to account. Thank you for writing to me. Blessings! Barbara

Pamela Casey

As far as the comments from Betty Bartlow I am in full agreement my sister was recently placed in hospice she she and I were up and talking about going to Laughlin the following weekend she was fine then all of a sudden hospice nurse came in and wanted to take her to the Hospice Care Center Ryan’s house and within 24 hours max my sister had passed away and I know it’s because of over-medicating. And I’d also like to mention the fact that when I went to see her I had asked her nurse how my sister was doing and the only words that came from that woman’s mouth was and I quote " she’s dying" I don’t find that to be a very compassionate nor professional answer to give a family member I obviously already aware of the fact that my sister was ill and dying the answer I might have been looking for was how is her mind set how is her blood pressure so on their monitoring ( so-called) which of course I was told the reason for them wanting to take her to this facility to begin with to monitor her I was never given any answer other than the one I just listed above.

As far as the comments from Betty Bartlow I am in full agreement my sister was recently placed in hospice she she and I were up and talking about going to Laughlin the following weekend she was fine then all of a sudden hospice nurse came in and wanted to take her to the Hospice Care Center Ryan’s house and within 24 hours max my sister had passed away and I know it’s because of over-medicating. And I’d also like to mention the fact that when I went to see her I had asked her nurse how my sister was doing and the only words that came from that woman’s mouth was and I quote " she’s dying" I don’t find that to be a very compassionate nor professional answer to give a family member I obviously already aware of the fact that my sister was ill and dying the answer I might have been looking for was how is her mind set how is her blood pressure so on their monitoring ( so-called) which of course I was told the reason for them wanting to take her to this facility to begin with to monitor her I was never given any answer other than the one I just listed above.

Barbara

Hi Candy, good for you for speaking up about not giving morphine at end of life when the patient’s action does not require it. Unfortunately many physicians do not understand end of life comfort and pain management. Dying is not painful and there are way too many healthcare professionals that do not understand the concept. I have just written a new booklet about pain at end of life for the very reason that lay people as well as healthcare just don’t understand pain at end of life. My hope is that it will bring some understanding to a much misunderstood healthcare issue.
Blessings to you in the work you are doing. End of life care expertise is very much needed in hospitals and nursing facilities. It is not just an area for hospice. Barbara

Hi Candy, good for you for speaking up about not giving morphine at end of life when the patient’s action does not require it. Unfortunately many physicians do not understand end of life comfort and pain management. Dying is not painful and there are way too many healthcare professionals that do not understand the concept. I have just written a new booklet about pain at end of life for the very reason that lay people as well as healthcare just don’t understand pain at end of life. My hope is that it will bring some understanding to a much misunderstood healthcare issue.
Blessings to you in the work you are doing. End of life care expertise is very much needed in hospitals and nursing facilities. It is not just an area for hospice. Barbara

Candy

I was a hospice nurse for about 15 years, had my HPNA certification. For I chose to give it up after, moving as I did not find a hospice that was aligned with the hi quality hospice care I had come from. That being said, I am now working on a med/surg floor. I have a GIP hospice patient that is resting with eyes closed noisy respiration’s of 10, no grimacing, frowning etc, she is completely non responsive, I had not given any medications as her symptoms don’t support giving a prn, which is all she has. I was told by the nursing supervisor that the hospitalists are not going to be happy if she isn’t given the prn morphine. I told her that I couldn’t justify giving her morphine prn if there are no symptoms. If the doctor wants it given there should be a routine order. What are your thoughts?

I was a hospice nurse for about 15 years, had my HPNA certification. For I chose to give it up after, moving as I did not find a hospice that was aligned with the hi quality hospice care I had come from. That being said, I am now working on a med/surg floor. I have a GIP hospice patient that is resting with eyes closed noisy respiration’s of 10, no grimacing, frowning etc, she is completely non responsive, I had not given any medications as her symptoms don’t support giving a prn, which is all she has. I was told by the nursing supervisor that the hospitalists are not going to be happy if she isn’t given the prn morphine. I told her that I couldn’t justify giving her morphine prn if there are no symptoms. If the doctor wants it given there should be a routine order. What are your thoughts?

Barbara

Hi Josh, to answer your question of what is too much medication when end of life is approaching: there is no specific answer. Pain management is an individualized matter, not a one size fits all formula. I recommend always start with a low dosage and add up. This takes longer to find comfort but eliminates the over medicating stupors that occur when you start high. Too often healthcare professionals mistake the normal dying process for an indication of pain. Dying is not painful, disease causes pain. Pain medicine or anxiety reducing medication is often given to mask the signs of the normal dying process (yes, even some hospice nurses are doing this). My belief is that education of the family and significant others about the normal dying process and what it looks like reduces the fear brought to the bedside and eliminates the need to medicate. There is restlessness, random hand movements, moaning, picking, signs that can indicate pain but also are part of the normal dying process. How do you tell which is which? If pain has been part of the disease process in the months and weeks before dying begins then pain is what you are seeing. Medicate that pain with however much medication is necessary to provide comfort. BUT, if pain was not part of the disease history and now the person is showing signs of agitation, restlessness, and picking then it is not pain but the body trying to release itself for this earth. In that case there is no need to medicate with narcotics. Maybe a simple relaxant if the agitation presents the possibility of the patient falling out of bed or hurting themselves but not narcotics. The key here is not medications but education. Thank you for your comments. You present a situation that is all too common. Blessings! Barbara

Hi Josh, to answer your question of what is too much medication when end of life is approaching: there is no specific answer. Pain management is an individualized matter, not a one size fits all formula. I recommend always start with a low dosage and add up. This takes longer to find comfort but eliminates the over medicating stupors that occur when you start high. Too often healthcare professionals mistake the normal dying process for an indication of pain. Dying is not painful, disease causes pain. Pain medicine or anxiety reducing medication is often given to mask the signs of the normal dying process (yes, even some hospice nurses are doing this). My belief is that education of the family and significant others about the normal dying process and what it looks like reduces the fear brought to the bedside and eliminates the need to medicate. There is restlessness, random hand movements, moaning, picking, signs that can indicate pain but also are part of the normal dying process. How do you tell which is which? If pain has been part of the disease process in the months and weeks before dying begins then pain is what you are seeing. Medicate that pain with however much medication is necessary to provide comfort. BUT, if pain was not part of the disease history and now the person is showing signs of agitation, restlessness, and picking then it is not pain but the body trying to release itself for this earth. In that case there is no need to medicate with narcotics. Maybe a simple relaxant if the agitation presents the possibility of the patient falling out of bed or hurting themselves but not narcotics. The key here is not medications but education. Thank you for your comments. You present a situation that is all too common. Blessings! Barbara

Josh

Hi, I have been a nurse for about four and a half years in long term care. I know this site is to educate families on end of life care but if I may, I have a few question I would like to ask you. In your opinion of course, nothing taken officially. What would you consider to be to much when referring to comfort medication? To be more exact, what situation would alert your nursing judgement and tell you they are getting to much? I understand of course we can use our judgement as nurses on how much a resident/patient gets but all nurses are not created equally and may give certain medications when they should not to avoid drifting into what could be classified as a chemical restraint (over medicating). Don’t miss understand, I am all for giving comfort meds when they are warranted with proper signs of pain/discomfort such as increased respirations, pulse rate, and others. For example, patient A is awake, alert, and mostly oriented but are starting the iminnent declining process that is expected with some sudden and serious drops in function for a period of time. Noting patient can still express thier needs to staff. Hospice nurse B writes order ( Dr. Prescribed of course…) For morphine 1 ml every hour as needed and lorazepam 1 ml four times daily routinely (6am, 11am,4pm,10pm roughly). I also understand that tolerance is a factor with all medication but despite tolerance these meds can biuld up in there system over time and considering the disease process and how it may effect tolerance. As a hospice type nurse writing orders for my people (patients) should you not start low on your dosing and work your way up as pain or discomfort increases during the process? I care deeply for my patients and there families. I do not want to take away there ability to function or communicate in there last days unless it’s necessary. This has been a recent concern of mine because of a particular situation. In this particular situation I believe it was due to nurses that lack the proper experience in these types of situation, not saying there bad nurses. I will state I am no expert nor am I without mistakes of my own in my short career, it’s called a practice for a reason. Highlighting though that long term care is all I know. That being said, I have seen the dying process take place many times, possibly on a average upwards of two, three, or more every month for over 4 years ( Do the math). At what point do you say “no” and to whom? I will state for any concerned families that may be reading this. Hospice services along with others like it are are a good idea and I am in no way downplaying there effectiveness or reliability. They are at times necessary for that member of your family/friend and whom ever is watching the process take place . This situation I have been reffering to has not been common nor do i believe intentional in any wa, just a lack of experience. Nurses of course are responsible for one another in a work place and must be mindful of each other actions, especially care/treatment from outside sources such as hospice ex. As a family member never be afraid to ask questions! ALLWAYS ASK QUESTIONS, keep an understanding of what’s going on. As a nurse I strongly believe that caring for famly members and their needs are equally as important, just in a different aspect (information, teaching,comforting) . Again I’m no expert, I am speaking from my experiences/situations only stating what I believe are the appropriate action/responsibility of a nurse and agree with the very informative content of this site. I also apologize for the very long and overly detailed comment to ask only a few questions (note: nurses are OCD). Thank you too anyone who took time to read my entire rant. your is appreciated. Extra points to whomever can find all 900 grammatical errors, for the ones looking. (yes, I’m aware there are many).

Hi, I have been a nurse for about four and a half years in long term care. I know this site is to educate families on end of life care but if I may, I have a few question I would like to ask you. In your opinion of course, nothing taken officially. What would you consider to be to much when referring to comfort medication? To be more exact, what situation would alert your nursing judgement and tell you they are getting to much? I understand of course we can use our judgement as nurses on how much a resident/patient gets but all nurses are not created equally and may give certain medications when they should not to avoid drifting into what could be classified as a chemical restraint (over medicating). Don’t miss understand, I am all for giving comfort meds when they are warranted with proper signs of pain/discomfort such as increased respirations, pulse rate, and others. For example, patient A is awake, alert, and mostly oriented but are starting the iminnent declining process that is expected with some sudden and serious drops in function for a period of time. Noting patient can still express thier needs to staff. Hospice nurse B writes order ( Dr. Prescribed of course…) For morphine 1 ml every hour as needed and lorazepam 1 ml four times daily routinely (6am, 11am,4pm,10pm roughly). I also understand that tolerance is a factor with all medication but despite tolerance these meds can biuld up in there system over time and considering the disease process and how it may effect tolerance. As a hospice type nurse writing orders for my people (patients) should you not start low on your dosing and work your way up as pain or discomfort increases during the process? I care deeply for my patients and there families. I do not want to take away there ability to function or communicate in there last days unless it’s necessary. This has been a recent concern of mine because of a particular situation. In this particular situation I believe it was due to nurses that lack the proper experience in these types of situation, not saying there bad nurses. I will state I am no expert nor am I without mistakes of my own in my short career, it’s called a practice for a reason. Highlighting though that long term care is all I know. That being said, I have seen the dying process take place many times, possibly on a average upwards of two, three, or more every month for over 4 years ( Do the math). At what point do you say “no” and to whom? I will state for any concerned families that may be reading this. Hospice services along with others like it are are a good idea and I am in no way downplaying there effectiveness or reliability. They are at times necessary for that member of your family/friend and whom ever is watching the process take place . This situation I have been reffering to has not been common nor do i believe intentional in any wa, just a lack of experience. Nurses of course are responsible for one another in a work place and must be mindful of each other actions, especially care/treatment from outside sources such as hospice ex. As a family member never be afraid to ask questions! ALLWAYS ASK QUESTIONS, keep an understanding of what’s going on. As a nurse I strongly believe that caring for famly members and their needs are equally as important, just in a different aspect (information, teaching,comforting) . Again I’m no expert, I am speaking from my experiences/situations only stating what I believe are the appropriate action/responsibility of a nurse and agree with the very informative content of this site. I also apologize for the very long and overly detailed comment to ask only a few questions (note: nurses are OCD). Thank you too anyone who took time to read my entire rant. your is appreciated. Extra points to whomever can find all 900 grammatical errors, for the ones looking. (yes, I’m aware there are many).

Barbara

Connie, thank you for sharing how your husband’s death occurred. It certainly presents a puzzling picture. Being with many, many people at the moment of death I just want to give you something to think about: if the nurse gave your husband morphine and the very next moment he was dead the morphine dose (no matter the size of the dosage) did not have time to get into his blood stream and cause his breathing and heart to stop. His immediate death, with his talking just before the morphine was given, has me wondering. Something happened but since I do not know what his illness was I don’t have enough information to explore further. If you would like to contact me to talk further use my personal email barbara@bkbooks.com. My thoughts and blessings are with you. Barbara

Connie, thank you for sharing how your husband’s death occurred. It certainly presents a puzzling picture. Being with many, many people at the moment of death I just want to give you something to think about: if the nurse gave your husband morphine and the very next moment he was dead the morphine dose (no matter the size of the dosage) did not have time to get into his blood stream and cause his breathing and heart to stop. His immediate death, with his talking just before the morphine was given, has me wondering. Something happened but since I do not know what his illness was I don’t have enough information to explore further. If you would like to contact me to talk further use my personal email barbara@bkbooks.com. My thoughts and blessings are with you. Barbara

connie gravelle

I was talkingbto my gusband when a nurse came in and asked my husband, ow is your pain. My husband her about a 3 or 4’ not too bad. Then she immediately gave him more morphine. He closed his eyes and died at that moment. . He was declared dead. My heart was breaking . One minute we were talking and then he was dead. He never opened his eyes again. What that nurse did was kill him. . You cannot convince me other wise. She had no business to give me another diose of morphine when he did not need it. I lost my husband of 41 years . I believe patients are overmedicated deliberately.
I was talkingbto my gusband when a nurse came in and asked my husband, ow is your pain. My husband her about a 3 or 4’ not too bad. Then she immediately gave him more morphine. He closed his eyes and died at that moment. . He was declared dead. My heart was breaking . One minute we were talking and then he was dead. He never opened his eyes again. What that nurse did was kill him. . You cannot convince me other wise. She had no business to give me another diose of morphine when he did not need it. I lost my husband of 41 years . I believe patients are overmedicated deliberately.

Barbara Karnes

Hi Diane, I just don’t have enough information to guide you here but here are my thoughts. I am wondering if your mother was complaining of pain during the hospice interview. What led hospice to think Morphine was appropriate? Was your mother short of breath due to the cancer in her lungs? Pain and shortness of breath are the two reasons I can think of that would require Morphine. Yes, her lethargy and non responsiveness (from what you have described) was the result of the morphine. I suggest you ask the nurse that gave the morphine why she thought your mother needed it. You mentioned you did not expect your mother’s death for 6 to 8 month. Numbers given by anyone are always misleading. We just can’t put numbers on how long someone has to live however the fact that she was alert and active tells me she probably had not entered the dying process. You have not said if your mother woke up or did not wake up and then died. Blessings! Barbara

Hi Diane, I just don’t have enough information to guide you here but here are my thoughts. I am wondering if your mother was complaining of pain during the hospice interview. What led hospice to think Morphine was appropriate? Was your mother short of breath due to the cancer in her lungs? Pain and shortness of breath are the two reasons I can think of that would require Morphine. Yes, her lethargy and non responsiveness (from what you have described) was the result of the morphine. I suggest you ask the nurse that gave the morphine why she thought your mother needed it. You mentioned you did not expect your mother’s death for 6 to 8 month. Numbers given by anyone are always misleading. We just can’t put numbers on how long someone has to live however the fact that she was alert and active tells me she probably had not entered the dying process. You have not said if your mother woke up or did not wake up and then died. Blessings! Barbara

Diane

Regarding an initial visit from hospice nurse to sign up for care is it typical that within the first 20 mins of meeting a patient that morphine is prescribed? And again two more doses within he next 30 mins for a total dosage amount of 45 ml? Our mother although sick was not expected to pass for another 6-8 mos. our mother was in good spirits and had even said she was wanting to go out that day for a meal. Four hours later she was lethargic and nonresponding after receiving morphine. Can you please advise on this practice if over medicating with morphine ? Our mother did have lung cancer. Thank you

Regarding an initial visit from hospice nurse to sign up for care is it typical that within the first 20 mins of meeting a patient that morphine is prescribed? And again two more doses within he next 30 mins for a total dosage amount of 45 ml? Our mother although sick was not expected to pass for another 6-8 mos. our mother was in good spirits and had even said she was wanting to go out that day for a meal. Four hours later she was lethargic and nonresponding after receiving morphine. Can you please advise on this practice if over medicating with morphine ? Our mother did have lung cancer. Thank you

Barbara Karnes

Betty, thank you so much for writing about your experience with the nursing facility and hospice. Unfortunately not all medical care professionals understand end of life progression and care. I find throughout this country there are too many professionals that believe dying is painful and narcotics are the answer. I believe their heart is in the right compassionate place. It is knowledge that is missing. I can’t say loud enough or often enough that dying is not painful, disease causes pain. Check the disease history to see if pain is an issue. If it is, medicate with whatever it takes to provide comfort BUT if pain is not part of the disease history there is no need for narcotics.
I am sorry you and your sister are in this situation. Have you thought of changing facilities and hospices?

Betty, thank you so much for writing about your experience with the nursing facility and hospice. Unfortunately not all medical care professionals understand end of life progression and care. I find throughout this country there are too many professionals that believe dying is painful and narcotics are the answer. I believe their heart is in the right compassionate place. It is knowledge that is missing. I can’t say loud enough or often enough that dying is not painful, disease causes pain. Check the disease history to see if pain is an issue. If it is, medicate with whatever it takes to provide comfort BUT if pain is not part of the disease history there is no need for narcotics.
I am sorry you and your sister are in this situation. Have you thought of changing facilities and hospices?

Betty Barlow

I can not believe your article! I know for a fact that my elderly sister has been and still is being over-medicated for the past several months. Sadly, the courts are taking their time in researching the information I have given them. The court appointed Guardian ad litem has finally, after 90 days, checked into my allegations against the group home where my sister is residing and hospice involvement. He was horrified at what he found out concerning her medication and the way she looked now compared to when he first saw her three months ago.

When my sister was first placed in a group home by another family member, she was walking and enjoying her life. Within a couple months, she was unable to walk without assistance, even with her walker. We discovered from the hospice book that she had been put on medication (along with morphine) that causes lapse of memory and other symptoms similar to having been diagnosed with dementia. She has not been diagnosed with dementia yet the symptoms appear the same.

The public needs to be aware of what is happening in group homes and hospice’s involvement. I understand the Attorney General is investigating several cases in the state of Arizona and hopefully this type of euthanasia will be stopped and those involved will be prosecuted.

I can not believe your article! I know for a fact that my elderly sister has been and still is being over-medicated for the past several months. Sadly, the courts are taking their time in researching the information I have given them. The court appointed Guardian ad litem has finally, after 90 days, checked into my allegations against the group home where my sister is residing and hospice involvement. He was horrified at what he found out concerning her medication and the way she looked now compared to when he first saw her three months ago.

When my sister was first placed in a group home by another family member, she was walking and enjoying her life. Within a couple months, she was unable to walk without assistance, even with her walker. We discovered from the hospice book that she had been put on medication (along with morphine) that causes lapse of memory and other symptoms similar to having been diagnosed with dementia. She has not been diagnosed with dementia yet the symptoms appear the same.

The public needs to be aware of what is happening in group homes and hospice’s involvement. I understand the Attorney General is investigating several cases in the state of Arizona and hopefully this type of euthanasia will be stopped and those involved will be prosecuted.

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